. also on immigration, on internally, even on downsizing the pentagon. i think that will be the president's second term agenda. >> chris: we'll talk about guns in the second segment but i want to talk about debt and the budget. brit, house republicans, they have be busy, too, and held a retreat, in williamsburg and came up with a new strategy which is basically to punt on the debt ceiling. not make the fight about the debt ceiling, pass the three-month extension into april and, instead, make their stand either on march 1, when the automatic sequestration, $100 billion in spending cuts takes effect or march 27 when the government runs out of money. good idea? >> i think so, i think the debt ceiling struggle is probably a loser. the public has been convinced i think to some extent by what amounts to false information, that flows out of the white house and other quarters and throughout too much of the media, that the failure to raise the debt limit would mean an automatic default on international debt which is not true, but, nonetheless, scary. and, i think they didn't want to face that. the